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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    For those of you who do not like Chrisitanity, please hold you fire while I try to get some aswers, ok? ;-)
    Ooh, ooh, please, can I answer these? No, wait. You want SERIOUS answers. Okay, I'll hold off. For a while. Not too long, though, please?

    I see the person Jesus as a great teacher, who had a lot to give.
    This isn't directly related to Easter, so I'll comment about this ONE line:

    There are many serious scholars, both religious and secular, who aren't convinced that Jesus, as defined in the gospels, actually existed. Oh, there was probably an itinerant rabbi roaming around preaching some things, and he may have been called Yeshua, and he may have been executed for some reason (or not), but for someone who supposedly went around performing miracles in front of thousands of people, he didn't seem to make any kind of impression on people. Outside of the gospels, which were written many years after he supposedly died, there are no known references to him by contemporaries. Even Pat Robertson can get better press than that, and he hasn't performed a single miracle!
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    Ooh, ooh, please, can I answer these? No, wait. You want SERIOUS answers. Okay, I'll hold off. For a while. Not too long, though, please?
    Can you hold it a couple of more days? ;-)


    This isn't directly related to Easter, so I'll comment about this ONE line:

    There are many serious scholars, both religious and secular, who aren't convinced that Jesus, as defined in the gospels, actually existed. Oh, there was probably an itinerant rabbi roaming around preaching some things, and he may have been called Yeshua, and he may have been executed for some reason (or not), but for someone who supposedly went around performing miracles in front of thousands of people, he didn't seem to make any kind of impression on people. Outside of the gospels, which were written many years after he supposedly died, there are no known references to him by contemporaries. Even Pat Robertson can get better press than that, and he hasn't performed a single miracle!
    Well, I like to think there was, because I like the idea of a person taking so much interest in other people in a positive way, as opposed to so much worshipping of money, violence, power, greed and what not. I am not a Christian in any way, but I can get behind sound advice like:

    You cannot serve two masters - god and mammon, treat others like you want to be treated, if you share there will always be enough, recieve without payment and give without payment, let those without sin throw the first stone! - find the beam in your own eye before you try to cast out the beam in others, and one of my favorites which I wish I could learn: you cannot add as much as an hour to your life by worrying :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    Can you hold it a couple of more days? ;-)
    LOL! I think I may have fallen off the wagon already.

    Well, I like to think there was, because I like the idea of a person taking so much interest in other people in a positive way, as opposed to so much worshipping of money, violence, power, greed and what not.
    There have always been such people. There still are such people. It doesn't take an imaginary being to make people good.

    I am not a Christian in any way, but I can get behind sound advice like: ...
    Yes, these are all laudable statements, and none of them are exclusively Christian. They are all older than God, even. Just because the Christian churches claim to be the harbingers of morality doesn't make them so. You can be good without God.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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