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    Quote Originally Posted by js207 View Post

    A purely remote-controlled drone, like current ones, isn't that interesting legally or philosophically: it's still an aircraft operated by a pilot, even if the pilot's at a safe distance thanks to technology. If a US pilot fires a missile at something he shouldn't have, why does it matter whether he was six feet or six timezones from the missile when he fired it? (Or indeed from a submarine weapons officer firing a Tomahawk from 600 miles.) It's different psychologically, of course, because of that safety aspect, but it isn't until you have aircraft able to fire weapons autonomously that culpability becomes an interesting problem.
    And as the article makes clear, it's not the drone aspect itself, but the use against legally and ethically questionable targets that has raised concerns.

    Militarily and ethically, the missions in places like Yemen would be no different if they were carried out by piloted planes: the important difference is that they probably wouldn't be carried out. Ever since the U2 incident in 1960, the US has been intensely aware of the dangerous position of pilots on hostile missions outside the protections of the laws of war (for what little those may be worth in places like the Yemen,) and the political damage back home if they are lost. Losing front line pilots, particularly to capture and interrogation, is unpopular enough back home in a war situation; when they are somewhere the Government would rather not admit to, doing something a lot of voters might balk at, it can be a real scandal. By contrast, the loss of a drone is just another item on the unaudited defence budget. In the new phrase, there's no moral hazard, and we all know where that leads.

    So the important question, as I and the article's author see it, is not that this is a new technology, but if it's being used to do things we shouldn't be doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leo9 View Post
    So the important question, as I and the article's author see it, is not that this is a new technology, but if it's being used to do things we shouldn't be doing.
    Which is closely related to the question "Is killing Osama bin Laden and his ilk something we should be doing?" With the strikes in Pakistan, the worrying aspect for me is not that the terrorists are being killed, but that Pakistan isn't making enough of an effort to do it. If you live next door to me and your home has termites, you have a legal and moral obligation to stop them spreading to mine even if you don't care about your own property; if someone breaks into my home then you enable him to escape through yours, you can face criminal charges as well.

    If the Pakistani or Yemeni government doesn't want other people doing their job for them, there's a nice easy answer for them: do their own job! Where there isn't a functioning government, of course others will have to do the job instead, like dealing with the Somali pirates - but that's purely a failing of the government concerned, not the others stepping in to fill the void.

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