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    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    they're only colonies, not proper Americans.
    I sincerely hope you never go to one of the protectorates and tell someone they are living in an American Colony. The results would be predictably bad.

    Why are we still flogging the race issue here? It is a diversion at best. AZ passed a law that allowed them to enforce a federal law that the federal government wouldn't enforce for political reasons. It is a States rights issue, It is a federal negligence issue, it is a public safety issue. What it is not is a race issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTails View Post
    I sincerely hope you never go to one of the protectorates and tell someone they are living in an American Colony. The results would be predictably bad.

    Why are we still flogging the race issue here? It is a diversion at best. AZ passed a law that allowed them to enforce a federal law that the federal government wouldn't enforce for political reasons. It is a States rights issue, It is a federal negligence issue, it is a public safety issue. What it is not is a race issue.

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    Deny it all you like, they're colonies by another name.

    Not a race issue ... nothing to do with HISPANICS (see above)??? Oh well ... if you say so.

    Salud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Deny it all you like, they're colonies by another name.
    I denied nothing, as there is nothing to deny. The distinction between colony and protectorate is quite clear.
    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Not a race issue ... nothing to do with HISPANICS (see above)??? Oh well ... if you say so.

    Salud!
    If the law specified ANY race, creed, or color, I would be first in line to oppose it. It does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTails View Post
    I denied nothing, as there is nothing to deny. The distinction between colony and protectorate is quite clear.
    Semantics apart, the distinction between a colony and a protectorate is such a fine one as to be non-existent


    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTails View Post
    If the law specified ANY race, creed, or color, I would be first in line to oppose it. It does not.

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    Not even Southern states (whose political views are surpassed only by the previous apartheid regime in South Africa) would nowadays be daft enough to specify a particular race when formulating their exclusion laws. But it's not how you word your laws, it's how you apply them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Semantics apart, the distinction between a colony and a protectorate is such a fine one as to be non-existent
    I agree semantics be dammed! The differences are QUITE clear!





    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Not even Southern states (whose political views are surpassed only by the previous apartheid regime in South Africa) would nowadays be daft enough to specify a particular race when formulating their exclusion laws. But it's not how you word your laws, it's how you apply them.
    So here you are taking the position that the authorities have the worst possible reason for deciding that enforcing Federal law is something they should do? That means that you are assuming the outcome of something before it happens. You know what that means, correct?

    By the way have you personally read the law??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Deny it all you like, they're colonies by another name
    .


    col·o·ny
       /ˈkɒləni/
    –noun, plural -nies.

    any people or territory separated from but subject to a ruling power.

    Therefore places like Guam and Puerto Rico are not colonies!


    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Not a race issue ... nothing to do with HISPANICS (see above)??? Oh well ... if you say so.

    Salud!
    Illegal is not a race therefore his position is correct!!

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    Agreed!

    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTails View Post
    I sincerely hope you never go to one of the protectorates and tell someone they are living in an American Colony. The results would be predictably bad.

    Why are we still flogging the race issue here? It is a diversion at best. AZ passed a law that allowed them to enforce a federal law that the federal government wouldn't enforce for political reasons. It is a States rights issue, It is a federal negligence issue, it is a public safety issue. What it is not is a race issue.

    Cheers
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