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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post
    But also informed that even our allies have been know to spy on us!
    Are you saying that you weren't aware of this beforehand? That would surprise me. AFAIK, our allies have always spied on us, and vice versa. I would imagine it's not quite as cutthroat, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    Are you saying that you weren't aware of this beforehand? That would surprise me. AFAIK, our allies have always spied on us, and vice versa. I would imagine it's not quite as cutthroat, though.
    Oh, I don't know about that ... not if "Spooks" is anything to go by.

    (I know that's fiction, but I don't know anyone with real life experience of (counter-)espionage.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Oh, I don't know about that ... not if "Spooks" is anything to go by.
    I wouldn't put too much reliance on fictional spy stories. I'd bet real intelligence agencies would literally kill to have the kinds of resources the fictional agencies have. Still, it's a tricky business, and today's allies may be tomorrow's enemies, so it only makes sense to keep as much to yourself as you can, while trying to ferret out as many of their secrets as possible.
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    My understanding of ally spying is more a matter of verifying what they were being told.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    I wouldn't put too much reliance on fictional spy stories. I'd bet real intelligence agencies would literally kill to have the kinds of resources the fictional agencies have. Still, it's a tricky business, and today's allies may be tomorrow's enemies, so it only makes sense to keep as much to yourself as you can, while trying to ferret out as many of their secrets as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post
    My understanding of ally spying is more a matter of verifying what they were being told.
    I would be very surprised if it were as simple as that.

    Still, as a former member of the Defense Department I suppose your experience with this would be far greater than my own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    I would be very surprised if it were as simple as that.

    Still, as a former member of the Defense Department I suppose your experience with this would be far greater than my own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    Are you saying that you weren't aware of this beforehand? That would surprise me. AFAIK, our allies have always spied on us, and vice versa. I would imagine it's not quite as cutthroat, though.
    Didn't think of it. Doesn't mean I was surprised though.

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