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View Poll Results: What say you on the United States' new gun control ruling?

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  • The U.S. Supreme Court interpreted the Second Ammendment appropriately.

    22 68.75%
  • The U.S. Supreme Court got it wrong.

    7 21.88%
  • I really don't give a flip what Americans do with their guns.

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    The Supreme Court has simply interpreted the Consitution and stated what the law is. That's its job.

    That doesn't alter the fact that the law is wrong, and sets USA back 300 years or so. It now falls to politicians to protect their people from the assinine notion that universal gun possession will rid the country of crime, or will provide protection to the law-abiding citizen, or will enable them to muster arms against the English.

    Get rid of guns, and the murder rate WILL fall, I promise you. Let guns be freely available to anyone who wants them - including, now, convicted killers and lunatics, and more people will be murdered, and more people will die through accidental shootings.

    A lost opportunity, I call it. No, not lost, spurned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Get rid of guns, and the murder rate WILL fall, I promise you. Let guns be freely available to anyone who wants them - including, now, convicted killers and lunatics, and more people will be murdered, and more people will die through accidental shootings.
    Tell that to those countries who have tried your suggestions. Try convincing them that you are right and the statistics kept since guns were outlawed are incorrect.

    That is bullshit rhetoric and I'm, glad most people see through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    The Supreme Court has simply interpreted the Consitution and stated what the law is. That's its job.

    That doesn't alter the fact that the law is wrong, and sets USA back 300 years or so. It now falls to politicians to protect their people from the assinine notion that universal gun possession will rid the country of crime, or will provide protection to the law-abiding citizen, or will enable them to muster arms against the English.

    Get rid of guns, and the murder rate WILL fall, I promise you. Let guns be freely available to anyone who wants them - including, now, convicted killers and lunatics, and more people will be murdered, and more people will die through accidental shootings.

    A lost opportunity, I call it. No, not lost, spurned.
    Oh.....WHERE to begin here.....

    A, Number One, and First...i AM a law abiding, gun licensed holding, citizen of the US...i'm not sure where you are from, as you've chosen to hide your Location...

    B, "Get rid of guns, and the murder rate WILL fall, I promise you."

    can you?? can you REALLY?? sorry, i'll take my chances....i want my odds to be 'even up' with the moron that climbs in my window with a rifle at 3am...

    and C, "universal gun possession" was NOT what the ruling said...

    "The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Americans have a right to own guns for self-defense and hunting", was what it said....those weapons have to be registered...

    not sure what point you're trying to make...but i'll defend to the death, your right to make it...would you do the same for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflySlave4u View Post
    Oh.....WHERE to begin here.....

    A, Number One, and First...i AM a law abiding, gun licensed holding, citizen of the US...i'm not sure where you are from, as you've chosen to hide your Location...

    B, "Get rid of guns, and the murder rate WILL fall, I promise you."

    can you?? can you REALLY?? sorry, i'll take my chances....i want my odds to be 'even up' with the moron that climbs in my window with a rifle at 3am...

    and C, "universal gun possession" was NOT what the ruling said...

    "The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Americans have a right to own guns for self-defense and hunting", was what it said....those weapons have to be registered...

    not sure what point you're trying to make...but i'll defend to the death, your right to make it...would you do the same for me?
    Somewhere in this forum itself are posts that absolutely disprove the statement about crime rates and murder rates going down. If I'm not mistaken, and I have been before, I believe it was Australia where the crime skyrocketed after guns were outlawed. I also think England has very similar problems and many law abiding citizens there want their guns back.

    I'm with you butterfly though I'm not sure I'd defend his/her, since I don't know which, right if it involved my death over this issue since he/she thinks guns are not vital to our well being as a free society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warbaby1943 View Post
    Somewhere in this forum itself are posts that absolutely disprove the statement about crime rates and murder rates going down. If I'm not mistaken, and I have been before, I believe it was Australia where the crime skyrocketed after guns were outlawed. I also think England has very similar problems and many law abiding citizens there want their guns back.

    I'm with you butterfly though I'm not sure I'd defend his/her, since I don't know which, right if it involved my death over this issue since he/she thinks guns are not vital to our well being as a free society.

    Yep, and when you take away the right of the people to defend themselves, you give the criminal the freedom to commit whatever crime he wants, because they cannot take all of the guns off the streets without committing other acts that infringe on our rights. Nope, don't think so.

    That whole line is a crock, about crime rates going down, and jeez, especially now when i can go on ebay and buy items directly from Hong Kong, or hell, for that matter, i can build a gun if i want one...or will my right to look at a blueprint (pattern, diagram, dunno what that would be called lol) for a gun become a crime too?

    This matter is simply out of line altogether. If the people of the US actually wanted a gun ban, we would have figured out how to amend the Constitution in order to make it so. Some states have been allowing gay marriage...i know if that can be done, and the majority of Americans wanted it done, guns would be banned too. 300 years? OK i'm old fashioned anyway. Guns are traditional, if nothing else, and i like tradition. Guns are how this country was formed. i like knowing that i have the right to own one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    Get rid of guns, and the murder rate WILL fall, I promise you. Let guns be freely available to anyone who wants them - including, now, convicted killers and lunatics, and more people will be murdered, and more people will die through accidental shootings.
    Factually incorrect. Restrictive gun laws increase the crime and murder rates.

    When Florida instituted concealed weapons permits, violent crime in the State went down. This trend has been the case in every State that's instituted carry permits since.

    Statistics that indicate you're X-times more likely to be killed by your own gun in your home are cooked -- the only way the math works is if incidents where a gun owner injured a criminal or the criminal fled are ignored and only incidents of death are counted.

    When Florida's carry permits went into effect, Dade County began a separate database to track criminal incidents involving individuals with carry permits. Seven years later they terminated the project ... the database had three entries.

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