Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Russell View Post
oh Tojo I don't agree you can force it, it just takes kidnap, and a lot of time.

I prefer mine to come to me willingly

Laffin. Of course that is one solution.


But yes B. Most of us prefer self sufficiency in our partners... and the stronger they are, the more pleasurable their gift of submission to you is. Then... once given, it is yours to use.