I don't know of anybody who wants a partner who doesn't find them attractive.

Female Domme/male sub is the only kind of relationship where the attraction isn't mutual. What a strange set up.

I can think of no other kind of scenario where two people of the opposite sex would pair up when only one person actually fancies the other.

I think if asked most single sub men would love their Domme to allow them intimacy and sex, they just resign themselves to playing second fiddle to her real lover because that is all their Domme is willing to offer.

Beggars and choosers etc.

I would be surprised if that wasn't the case but as you said I haven't acquired the ability to speak for a whole group of people and I didn't claim to have that ability.

I know there are guys who have wives or a vanilla relationship and go to a Domme for their submission but get their sex and intimacy with their partner at home and I'm sure the situation suits them fine.

But I think you will find the majority of subs deep down are hoping to find a lover to submit to not an aloof acquaintance.

There are many different types of male sub and I didn't claim any different.

You are seeing things in what I have written that aren't there.

I'm not speaking for anyone but myself.

I was just expressing a wish that sub guys wouldn't settle for less than what they deserve, if they desire sex and intimacy then they should try to avoid the Dommes with the no sex rule.

Maybe if us subbie guys stood up for what we wanted a bit more, less Dommes would be so quick to relegate sub guys to a mere irrelevance.

It's all a pipe dream I know but maybe male subs would be valued more if they reserved their submission for Dommes who where prepared to give a little love as well as Dominance.

If I had said I think Domme women should avoid subs who don't value them would that have got you're back up?

You would probably have agreed with me wholeheartedly, surely a Dominant women deserves the best she can get.

Then why not extend you're good will to the guys. We could use some of it.