How much the mid east loves us

[Stone]

welli agree we should have invaded iraq but not for the war on terror and wmd's it was something that needed to be finished.as far as the war on terror we should have invaded saudi arabia after all 15 of the terrorists in the planes were saudi's.I am going to sound like an extremest about islam but i have studied it and understand it better than most non-muslims.A member of islam can lie to his wife anyone he is doing buisness with and especially the enemy it is not a sin.I will say its not so much the common everyday muslim you have to worry about like with all religons its the extremests the trouble is its the extremests that are incharge of these middle eastren countries.

[TomOfSweden]

welli agree we should have invaded iraq but not for the war on terror and wmd's it was something that needed to be finished.as far as the war on terror we should have invaded saudi arabia after all 15 of the terrorists in the planes were saudi's.I am going to sound like an extremest about islam but i have studied it and understand it better than most non-muslims.A member of islam can lie to his wife anyone he is doing buisness with and especially the enemy it is not a sin.I will say its not so much the common everyday muslim you have to worry about like with all religons its the extremests the trouble is its the extremests that are incharge of these middle eastren countries.

Lying isn't a sin for an atheists either...and it's legal being atheist in USA. So what's your point?

It wasn't the Saudi govornement that attacked world trade center, but private Saudi citizens. I'm not a big fan of collective punishments.

I have other issues with Saudi Arabia other than Islam. Basically that it's still a monarchy. They have started with some democratic reforms, but it's mostly just token reforms to keep the population happy.

They do in practice have a free debate in Saudi Arabia. Since everybody has a satelite dish and all networks are based in London. Internet access is unsuccesfully monitored. On paper they are a police state, but with the media reaching everywhere today it's impossible to keep a lid on it.

I think that if we leave them alone, they'll in time become democratic all on their own.