Is it topping from the bottom or orneriness?

[Talia]

Talia, it sounds like this is a relationship problem, not a D/s problem.

It was a relationship problem..and I have divorced him...not because of this but because of a multitude of reasons....it was an example someone had once told me I was topping from the bottom....Which I disagreed to because all I wanted was him to love me...anyway...

Regardless of what "topping from the bottom" means to each of us..it does seem manipulation seems to be at the top of the list....

Once, I was in trouble with Master and Sir reminded me I needed to remind Master I still needed punishment. Personally, viewed this as "topping from the bottom". One, I figured Master would remember on his one, on his own time. Two, I felt telling him expecting him right then to punish me was topping.....I asked Sir his view when i asked him if this could be considered "topping". He explained...."If Master tells you to not do this and you do it anyway, that's topping from the bottom. You are reminding him....that's all." (paraphrasing)

Your views.......

[TomOfSweden]

Once, I was in trouble with Master and Sir reminded me I needed to remind Master I still needed punishment. Personally, viewed this as "topping from the bottom". One, I figured Master would remember on his one, on his own time. Two, I felt telling him expecting him right then to punish me was topping.....I asked Sir his view when i asked him if this could be considered "topping". He explained...."If Master tells you to not do this and you do it anyway, that's topping from the bottom. You are reminding him....that's all." (paraphrasing)

Your views.......

My views is that a slave can only top from the bottom if the Master wants the slave to. If your master tells you not to do something and you do it anyway, I wouldn't call that D/s at all. That's just an ordinary vanilla relationship.