Ah ... I didn't realise this would eventually become a kitten thing. I like little pussies, so I'm on your side, Tom.

I agree about the BBC search engine; but isn't the website itself fantastic? You won't find that stuff on NPR's pages.

I'm tickled pink about the debate I've started, but I think readers must not get things out of perspective.

Pee drinking is cool and a real submissive gesture. Most medicines, when they leave a person's body aren't going to harm you at all. Even strong medicines probably won't if you only drink the pee once or twice, or in small amounts - I'm not in a position to say this authoritatively, but it's what I believe. What gives me the willies tho, and it should concern everyone who does this, is that some medicines have profound effects - and no-one here seems to know which (isn't there a single Quack into bdsm who can comment???). I have described the possible effects of one very strong drug, and if I were the girl in question, her master's pee would be the drink I'd have only after I'd finished the last drop of prussic acid there was in the world!

[B][I]All I want is for people to be careful. This site believes in "informed consent" I take it. Just make sure you are informed. [B][I]And I think it's the duty of the Dom/giver to find out, not the poor sub/receiver. It's probably be easier for him too.

So, after all that, cheers, sante, prost, slainte mhath, or (probably the best toast) Bottoms Up!

TYWD