Rape Scenes

[Subfortraining]

Doing a rape scene is a huge fantacy of mine i have had a couple of partners that were more than eager to assist but niether one of us has ever really figured out how to do it i have writen short stories about many scenarios in which i have imagined it going but would like some tips on how to actually play it out to where my fiance could do it with out it ruining the scene.

[Sir_Russell]

Depends on how real you want it. Mask on him and quickly bag you so that you can't see who it is. He must not talk unless he can disguise his voice well. This can be done unexpectedly when you first come home or he does or more risky is out side and thrown in the trunk of the car driven somewhere quiet.

[Ozme52]

hmmmm.... or have you fiance secretly look for someone in Colorado to... assist?

[jeanne]

Not to encourage Oz, (he doesn't need encouragement anyway) but I know of one couple who pulled this off successfully and he did have help - with both planning and execution.

[Ocean_Soul]

You could gimmie your address....

Okay, that was bad.

[gagged_Louise]

If you're thinking in terms of more men than just your own hubby assaulting you (and I guess that's what you're after, if it were just your bf it would be hard to totally disguise) then you'd need to think about some way to figure out if it's going too hard. "Staged real" rape would mean no safewords, no way to break out of the experience that this is a real rape, but if you'll enjoy it I suggest you need some sort of means to stop or slow the scene, at least for him (even if you don't want to be knowing). Is he totally okay with the idea of giving another man let in for a full go on you without ever bothering to see if you're physically taking it?

[Subfortraining]

Thank you all for responding and the great in sight. I never even thought about another person doing it with him and no i don't think he would be ok with it but im starting to wounder if that would be the only way. i guess i need more help please keep the posts comming. and again thank you all.

[Subfortraining]

You could gimmie your address....

Okay, that was bad.

yes yes it was HaHa but its good to be bad

[gloombunny]

What sort of fantasy do you have in mind when you say "rape"? A stranger grabbing you off the street or breaking into your home? Someone blackmailing you into having sex you don't want? Just being held down and fucked while you scream and struggle? There's a lot of variation on the theme of nonconsensuality, and giving useful advice depends on what exactly you're trying to do.

[Subfortraining]

stranger breaking in to my home and being tie up, blind folded, gagged, tortured and fucked is pretty much it.

[gagged_Louise]

and you want your husband to act the stranger/rapist? Would be kind of hard to pull off, as long as you want to not know it's him.

[Sir_Russell]

It isn't easy and at some point she will know it is him but he can pull it off in the beginning after a while the fantasy takes over. If it was a total stranger then I think it would be a rape and not a fantasy.

[gagged_Louise]

I'd agree Sir Russell, if he just surrendered his wife to another man (totally non-con and without letting her know) it would soon step over into real rape, and it could wreck the relation outright - and very few men would want to do teh scene like that. It's a potent fantasy to very many people (me included) but I guess it ´would be sensible to do it with some kind of secure means of breaking it off, or at least controlling it. Esp. if you've never done it before.

[Rhabbi]

My opinion.

Start slow, do not expect to jump right into this. Have your fiancee act out the scene, and expect to be frightened. Tell him to stop at this point. I know this will spoil the scene right then, but it is better than being tramautized.

Then do it again another time. Eventually you will be able to act out the whole scene. Then you can get lost in the fantasy. If you ecpect this to work the first time, you will be disappointed. It rarely does.

[ElectricBadger]

My suggestion would be a bit of long term bondage, with him absent at least part of it.

That is, on a weekend have him tie you up and blindfold you, leave you like that for the night...you could even leave windows/doors open/unlocked...at least one time during the night, he comes back to have his way with you, but can't speak...leaves when he's done, returns in the morning to unlock you. it's not perfect, but at least there's the believable sense of "who could it be".

Heh...I could probably give him a couple tips as well for small touches, but relaying them through you would probably lose some of the surprise.

[Sir_Russell]

I know it can be done, I have done it with several young ladies. You would have to ask them how long it took them to figure out that it was me.

The moment they are too stressed I would stop

[Ozme52]

You really need to send him to us so we can PM him some ideas... without you knowing how it would be done...

There are several ways he could totally spoof you into believing it wasn't him...

Alternately... what if you woke up totally unaware you'd just had sex and you came to realize it from the "evidence" within you... Maybe it was him... maybe someone else... All you know is "someone" used you.

Of course if part of the fantasy is to experience the moment... then we're back to one of the earlier suggestions.

I've always wondered if this would be a viable service... in which case I would enjoy becoming a certified service provider. (Here in California, you need to be certified for virtually all services. So... why not... weg)

[Subfortraining]

That could be done but he wouldn't get the messages for awhile and i don't know if my nosy little self could wait to see what was said.

And what Sir Russel said "The moment they are too stressed I would stop" Is why i want Chris being the one to do it. He knows me well enough thur play and just life that i figure if i did start getting to stressed he would be the one to know it and bring everything to a stop.

[gaggirl]

here there fellow rape fan! my husband and I roleplay this quite often by ourselves and also with added men. It takes a little bit of planning sometimes for it to be done right, esp if its for a few men and its out in public somewhere. other times we just "start" like if we are watching tlely hell appear behind me with a knife or something.

It has been a challenge to find the right people and then I do get very impatient (and cranky!) waiting for him to plan things so that I dont know about them. Theres always ways that even with you knowing, he can inject little surprises in.. like a home invasion you thought was happening, actually became two men busting in and dragging you outside.
or your hubby could build up pillows in the bed while you sleep so that an intruder or two appear over your bed at night and make you go with him/them (and the whole time you think your man is sleeping) he came home early yesterday (instead of pulling up on his bike he could have snuck in the back door hehe)

its been a thing to make it so that i dont know its him.. and even with regular play partners. we havent managed to pull that off yet. but i dont think it would be that hard if theres another man there and hes really quiet and makes sure he doenst use the normal scent or even if he wears another mans clothes!

other than that theres always the balacalva!

arg sorry im in a rush... but wanted to say hi and throw my two cents in for what its worth we look forward to hearing about any developments with your fun! take care x

[Ocean_Soul]

I've had a hard time wrapping my head around this thing ever since the start of this thread. It seems a delicate balance between two things. If it's shifted too far one way it's not believable enough and shifted another way it's, well, rape. This might be a hard limit for me right now but an interesting idea nonetheless!

[jeanne]

I've been following this thread with interest - the weird thing is, all my rape fantasies have disappeared since we stepped on this path. It makes me wonder if they'll come back eventually and I'll want to act them out. Hmmm...

[tessa]

Yeah, jeanne, this is interesting, isn't it? I've just always kept my rape fantasies to myself, thinking that how in the world could one do that and have it be anywhere near as good as what is imagined. But some of you make me see that it could be a real possibility.

Wow. Fascinating. And incredibly exciting!

Hmm. Worth thinking about anyway. Mmm hmm, I'm gonna think about it alright.

tessa

[Subfortraining]

Ok so after looking at everyones responses I have thought about it with a different approach and thought i might share. The possiblity of useing someone else to do the actual rape has been brought up but because of Chris not liking to share its not a real solution BUT i was thinking if one of his friends took me home after something i walked through the door before the friend he grabs me does the tieing up and blind folding Chris could then do the rest and i would still think it was that friend of his with just the slightest thought i could be Chris. do you think that could work?

[Rhabbi]

Ok so after looking at everyones responses I have thought about it with a different approach and thought i might share. The possiblity of useing someone else to do the actual rape has been brought up but because of Chris not liking to share its not a real solution BUT i was thinking if one of his friends took me home after something i walked through the door before the friend he grabs me does the tieing up and blind folding Chris could then do the rest and i would still think it was that friend of his with just the slightest thought i could be Chris. do you think that could work?

The problem I see here is that if you think it is the friend, you might actually undergo a rape. the key word in a rape fantasy is fantasy. You are looking for a way to make it seem real, when what you want to do is make it a fantasy. Do not worry about knowing it is him, unless you really want to be raped. It will be much better for both of you if you know about everything in advance, and can relax.

[Subfortraining]

The problem I see here is that if you think it is the friend, you might actually undergo a rape. the key word in a rape fantasy is fantasy. You are looking for a way to make it seem real, when what you want to do is make it a fantasy. Do not worry about knowing it is him, unless you really want to be raped. It will be much better for both of you if you know about everything in advance, and can relax.

I think part of me does want it to be a rape because i know how willing i am other wise and i guess because we haven't really done a whole lot of role play and what we have done i haven't been good at as far as getting myself into the fantacy. its all enjoyable but i just go with the flow instead of acting out in which ever way i should (i.e. scared, helpless,younger,)

[Rhabbi]

I think part of me does want it to be a rape because i know how willing i am other wise and i guess because we haven't really done a whole lot of role play and what we have done i haven't been good at as far as getting myself into the fantacy. its all enjoyable but i just go with the flow instead of acting out in which ever way i should (i.e. scared, helpless,younger,)

Not everyone can role play, it takes practice. As for rape, trust me, it might seem fun in your head, but for real it would be no fun at all. If you get hurt or scared during a rp you can stop, that does not happen in rape.

[gagged_Louise]

I remember reading a story years ago told from the perspective of a woman who had been talking to her bf about her kidnapping/rape fantasies. They more or less agree to do it, and she of course supposes he will kidnap her. So when a car comes running on the lonely road, and she is grabbed by a hooded man, hogtied and tossed into the back seat of the car she doesn't fight it more than for show, cause why would she? Blindfolded and gagged, tugging at the knots, feeling how helplessly she is bound and figuring what will happen...Then when the car stops at a cabin deep in the forest and the driver turns around and talks to her, she freezes - it's not his voice, it's a complete stranger. Oh my God...she redoubles her efforts in fury but no good (I'm sorry I can't provide a link cause it was a very hot story!)

Of course, in the end after she's been wrung inside out, half choked in fear, flogged and abused - and still turned on - it turns out this guy had ben hired by her hubby to make it feel real. That story kind of highlights the problem: how far do you go without making it real rape - and if it is the experience, the consuming feeling of real rape you want - I can understand that on some level though I wouldn't want to be subjected to full real rape myself - how do you deal with it afterwards?

[snowflake]

hi subfortraining,,, this is a really hard topic for me as i have been raped and have had fantasies about role play even after not having anything to do with the real rape and some of the fantasies have been carried out...

Rhabbi is right Rape is not fun... it has to be one of the worst things that could happen to anyone so you have to be very careful not to cross the line.. i would never wish real rape on anyone..

As far as one of Chris's friends helping out.. yep that would be great.. but it has to be someone you totally trust... that you could honestly say you feel safe with at all times.. and you have known for a very long time... You don't want just any friend cause that would not be safe play... Even if Chris is there and it isn't someone safe he could lose control of the scene and then you would be raped.. and that hun i would hope would never happen to you...

When my Master did it he used two other Doms that we had known for a very long time.... I wasn't expecting it as my Master had acted as if he were mad.. tied me to the bed bind folded and gagged me... then left the house to go for a beer.. 5 mins later two others were on top of me and he was no where in sight.. They used gloves so i could not feel their touch the same and said not a word...to be honest i was scared... and they pushed me to every limit and a touch over to get the point across but not to far that it would hurt me... this went on over a hole night ... to make it worse when Master came home they made it soudn like they had tied him down as well.. which only made it seem more real...

But they knew what i liked and such as my Master had asked me to write a story about what i would like to happen 2 months before and we had also agreed on my limits.. Then the subject was dropped..

So that night it happened i had no clue what was going on.. a truly thought i was being raped.. Thank goodness i wasn't...

Real rape does damage to you emotionally and not just physically.. 20 yrs later i am still afraid to go out alone at night .. i don't go where it don't know people by my self .. and to be honest i don't think i will ever get over it... So you really have to make sure that you don't get yourself in a positon that it can turn into real rape.. Please be careful hun..

i hope this helps hun

hugs
snowflake

[Subfortraining]

I am soo very saddened to hear that i do know that in real life it isn't any fun and leaves perminate damaging scares. I hope you all the best at a happy life. As for having one of Chris's friends help out i was thinking only in the very begining of tieing and blindfolding and then chris would take over from there i don't think Chris in any way could let another man touch me it would drive him crazy.


In my head at the time it was happening it wouldn't be a rp but because it would be Chris that is doing it and he knows my limits and my reactions i don't think it would be as tramatic as a real rape after it was done. but then again its just me thinkin again.

I like the idea of sharing the stories with him to make it just like you had imagined it.

[snowflake]

I realize that Chris would be the only one doing the touching but still you need to trust this friend casue as soon as oyu are tied down Crhis will be the only one to protect you.. and you never know this guy may get turned on by the looks of you helpless.. If you don't know him bad thigs could happen

by the way hun thank you ... most of the scares have faded it has been a very long time but still it effects 35 years later... But yes i ahve ahd some happiness in my life...

hugs
snowflake