Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
Well, you go right on thanking your god, then, and I'll go right on congratulating you for your work.


But that's just it! Love is an emotional response, brought about by hormones and our own minds. If you wish to think of that as spiritual then go right ahead. To me, though, spiritual implies something from beyond the body, from beyond the natural. It is by definition supernatural. I have never witnessed or experienced anything supernatural. At best, I may have experienced something for which I may not have had an explanation at the time. That makes it unknown, not supernatural.

You know what? There are just too many things out there that can't be explained in scientific terms or that science hasn't been able to solve. While I very much appreciate the congrats for staying clean, I do put a dramatic amount of work into it. The work goes into helping others in large part as you have said way above, but also into clearing away closed mindedness, resentments and fear through a relationship with God as I understand him...could totally be anything at all and I guess if science can come in between someone and a drink or a drug then cool! I am so pleased that I have a hgher power that is more comforting to me than that, but thats what I need.