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[denuseri]

Thats just like arguing for the abolishment of all science becuase people have been harmed by some of it's fruits Thorne.

[Thorne]

Thats just like arguing for the abolishment of all science becuase people have been harmed by some of it's fruits Thorne.

Not quite. Most of the examples in that link happened because people used religion to justify doing harm to others, or at least to justify not helping others. But in some cases it is an entire religion which is harming people. The Catholic Church recently told the Catholics of Africa that use of condoms was forbidden because it helps to spread AIDS when in reality the opposite is true. Condom use significantly reduces the spread of AIDS. The Church, however, is more concerned with the possibility of the condoms promoting promiscuity. It's irrelevant to them that hundreds of thousands will die of AIDS, as long as they don't fuck anyone before they do it. That's not only harmful, it's criminal.

Yes, people can abuse science, too. No question. But there is no concerted effort by scientists to harm people, no twisting of scientific truth to keep people ignorant. Doctors aren't heading into Haiti to kidnap children, or to distribute solar powered bibles.

[denuseri]

Yes, people can abuse science, too. No question. But there is no concerted effort by scientists to harm people, no twisting of scientific truth to keep people ignorant. [/URL].

Will we just ignore the whole methadology behind the science used by the nazi's to justify their uses of science on the jews and others then shall we?

Not to mention some of the crap our own country has done to minorities in the past in the name of science.

[Thorne]

Will we just ignore the whole methadology behind the science used by the nazi's to justify their uses of science on the jews and others then shall we?

Not to mention some of the crap our own country has done to minorities in the past in the name of science.

I'm not saying we should ignore such things. I'm not saying they were right.

But think about the reasons why such atrocities could be committed in the first place. Jews were persecuted for centuries because of their denunciation of Jesus. And the Church was a leader in these persecutions. This set the stage for the rampant anti-semitism of the Nazis.

The American minorities, primarily African-Americans, were kept in slavery and regarded as less than human by pious men quoting the Bible, such as Leviticus 25:44-46