Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
I agree that the criminal justice system is flawed, and injustices are far more common than is realised or admitted. I also agree with your observation that the system is loaded against particular sections of society: black youths, the working classes and the unemployed, abused women and so on. This has been illustrated in this very thread, where whole sections of society have been labelled "trash" and "yobs" (instinctively, I believe, not maliciously) for which the harshest penalties must be used to punish their crimes.

Murder is not a black or working class crime. It is certainly not a female crime. While more murders occur among the lower classes, they are usually committed in the heat of the moment, whereas, when a killing takes place among the higher social classes, power or money is usually the motive. It might be cynical of me, but I suggest that working class killers use murder where they see no other option, or where they lose control, while upper class killers see murder as the most expedient way to achieve their purposes, after calculating the pro's and con's and concluding that a person's death is necessary. Such people would never be called yobs or trash.
I do agree with you on the points that you have mentioned about the two classes of murder or shall we say killings. There is a third however and you have only hinted at it by mentioning other members posts, and that is the gang related murders. These gangs roam our Cities and towns in the UK looking for other gangs, and it is just to show face and protect their teritory, and when these gangs fight each other and a member gets killed, that is premeditated and should be rewarded with a harsh and long imprisonment. One other point i would like to make, and that is a person should never kill as the last resort unless it is accidental in self defence, or could not be avoided in self defence. This is not an argement against what you say, but just my personal feelings.

Regards ian 2411