i have read this thread from the start and have enjoyed the thought provoking and challenging posts from you den, i would hate to see you stop posting.
Perhaps a classic case of shooting the messenger because of the message. i will let all who read this decide how they feel about this point
I have found myself questioning myself as a result of your posts and feel that this can only be a good thing, good and stimulating debate is essential for all of us.
having followed the thread i feel that i do not agree nor disagree with you, i feel that perhaps it is maybe a question of semantics, or perspective.
You speak of the need for another division, in addition to that of submissives and dominants, i feel that perhaps it may be more a case of an additional quadrant of the spectrum, or more simply identifying a section of the current dynamic.
the spectrum running from submissive to dominant with switches, of which i feel i am most definitely one sitting pretty much between the two.
I can not and would not wish to speak for all switches however within that banding some switches will sit more towards the dominant element whilst others are more aligned to the submissive dynamic.
as such do switches exist in their own entirety or are we simply a collection or banding of the equation, who can tell, who really cares .
I can say that i feel different emotions for different people, sometimes i feel dominant to an individual where as to others i feel submissive.
What and who these are, or why these feelings should alter i am not able to answer, it also depends on what i as an individual need at that precise moment in time.
the question of true dominants stating that they would ever allow themselves to be topped by a switch well, possibly, or maybe perhaps it is more a case of they have not done so yet, as in not met one that they feel could top them, or that they would feel comfortable in allowing themselves to be topped by.
As i have said before, on this thread, i have only served one before, and until then had considered myself a dom, my feelings and acceptance of my submissive feelings has led me to re evaluate this.
Am i am sub, no, i do not think so, am i a true dom, well not according to the definition, i sit very much towards the dominant end of the switch quadrant, and would be very very surprised if another could domme me, however i feel that switch is perhaps the best label to apply to my feelings and needs.
I use the word label because unfortunately we live in a society where labels seem necessary.
In reality i would be a lot happier to say to people i am me, and i am into powerplay, and then see where that leads to rather than having to explain myself and catergorise me for the benefit of others.
in fact the only place that i ever label or call myself a switch is here amongst these threads, when i am chatting to people i like to let them draw their own conclusions as to what they think i am.
so whilst we agree, and disagree on some and many fundamental and insignificant points of this and i am sure other debates den, please dont feel that yours as with any one elses viewpoint is invalid or of no relevance. you are an articulate and stimulating poster, with an interesting and provoking viewpoint here.
This thread would be all the poorer for your departure.
Long live the debate and long may your contributions continue.