There are no rights or wrong in all thats been said IDC I agree totally, I'm a Sadistic Male and I have my own values and rules that I live by and my slave adheres to them as she made the choice to follow ( hence her submission to me). The creed to me is like an oxford dictionary its merely a starting point that at some time we all have read. We then followed our own path and made choices which lead us to where we wish to be today, Male or Female it makes no differance.

Cheers!!

Master S1