lets look at it in another way. When people say look at the person they are a pain slut do they mena if they stub there toe they have an orgasm? That is a pain slut give them pain of any kind and they respond to it.

my wife can handle a good deal of pain in the course of a scene, but there has to be a warm up first. Caressing light smacks strokes form the flogger. all with the intnet to get the nerve endings warmed up and the endorphins flowing. At that point it can be built upon till she may reach a point where she can achieve or border an orgasm.

She is not getting it for the sake of pure pain. it is a way for me to add to her pleasure in anoher formto push her into new areas of sexuality. Is this effective for everyone of course not. is there a reason for the pain yes mutual pleasure. If i told ehr bitch bend over and get 50 strokes she probably would but would be in tears for it especially if no reason. However if i say time to play and warm her up she can take easily 50 hard stroeks and that will push her into a new place.

The lines between pain and pleasure or close. have you ever had an orgasm so powerful that it has casued physical pain or discomofrt. or has a sensation that you ennjoyed so much you had to ahve it stop becasue it hurt. Just becasue you can handle certain things as pleasure at one momnet in time does not eman it will be the same at a different moment.

My wife and i had an opportunity toi play the other night with out kids being around for the first time in over 2 years. The first session went poorly things she normally liked were not sending her into her normal subspace she could not relax and get focused. Even though everything was relatively mild she couould not mentally get hwerself to where she need to be to progress. Later that night we did another scene. Where she was waxed beaten and knife played with has a couple small nicks annd a few brusies to show for it. This scene was far more intense in every sense. yet she orgasmed in it or came very very close she says she did not eveyone else says she did. Then becasue she enjoyed it so much and had a achieved a happy spot she fell asleep.....,..

the lines between pleasure and pain are easily blurred but part of benig able to enjoy that edge and walking it. is finidng a dominant that is willing to exp[lore you and your need and is willing to hhelp you navigate it. takes trust on all sides. trust on the part of the dominant to konw when is enough and to bacvk off. Trust with the submissive to be willing to say somehting is not write here physically or mentally we need to make an adjustment. Soon as i knew my wife had been on a bad trip the scene stopped. Several people came to our aid. with warm blankeyt cuddling and juice to amke her feel safe and secure and to konw that everything was ok.

reading back am not sure how much this answers the orignal question. however i think it gives a different slant on it. in short what you enjoys is what is right for you and if people wish to be narrow minded and jusge you based on that. That is their won damn fault. Who konws bby doing so they may miss out on what could be a very kinky relationship.