Well now, I just have to take exception to that. I'm from the John Rosemond school of child raising and I see nothing wrong with giving a child a pop on the butt to get his attantion and show him you're serious.

I was spanked four times when I was a child and three of them were deserved. Obviously they made a pretty big impression on me, since I can remember each of them.

Since you're throwing around names, leo, I'd have to say that it's people who refuse to be parents to their children who refuse to spank when it's warranted. Too many parents these days want to be their child's friend, when that's not their job and it does them a serious disservice.