Beastiality - The beast in all of us - The survey

[MrJerseyGuy]

I'm as kinky as the next guy...but the whole beastiality thing does nothing for me. In my youth I may have banged a few girls that looked like dogs...but they all had only two legs!

[2freaksinDS]

Here's a link if anyone is interested in it....xxx

[redEva]

welcome 2freaksinDs, glad to have new faces around. thanks for the link too - oldie but goodie. why don't you drop by the introduction thread and tell us a bit about yourself?

[player]

I had an experience once, but it was not the best...
I moved in with a kinky boyfriend right out of highschool. He wasn't a Master, in the true sense; he was simply a sadist. He had a party one night, and invited four of his guy friends over, and then asked me to blow off his Rottie.
I refused. Animals are one of my hard limits; I don't do them. And he knew it. He got mad at me for refusing, and dragged me out ot his backyard. It was summer, and he had a lot of trees there, so nobody saw but him and his friends...anyway, he tied me spreadeagle between two trees and whipped me. I was gagged, i couldn't use the safeword we arranged, and i think he was too drunk to see my hand signal. He cut me down from the tree after almost an hour, during which time all his friends had a go with the whip at me. Then he cut me down and had all his friends, plus himself, piss on me as i lay in the dirt. Then he hogtied me and left me there all night with the mosquitos. The next morning, a bee drifted by and stung me.
I'm allergic to bees; I go into anaphylactic shock when they sting me. I have a MedicAlert bracelet I wear during the summer months so if i do get stung, people know what to do.
I went into shock, and passed out. When i woke up, I was in the hospital. Don's little brother had come by to let the Rottie out and saw me there, and called the ambulance to take me to the hospital. If he hadn't I would have died.
If you do chose to indulge in any fantasy involving animals, please make sure all parties are willing.

Oh well it could have been worse

[jaeangel]

In retrospect, you're right, it could have been worse; I could have died. However, at the time, I was actually praying for death, I was in so much pain. You try being hogtied all night, with piss stinging the cuts that a whip left in your skin, and having mosquitoes use you for an all-you-can-eat buffet, and have a car-washing rag in your mouth tasting of grease and oil. It was horrible. Horrifying. I stayed away from the lifestyle after that; I've only just started to explore this side of my personality again in the last few months.

[woodsman'sgame]

Jaeangel,

Player's post was insensitive. Please pay no attention to his immature response. What you experienced was horrible. There is no question about that. I am glad you survived and it was not worse.

[Barton]

Yes that is so WG. It could have been worse indeed. I hope that player just wasn't using his brain for that post. Hate to think anyone could be that insensitive or that mean.

Barton.

[jaeangel]

Player: I'm sorry if my last post may have been a little...rude. Or curt. It just...seemed to me that you were being a bit...flippant...with what, to me, was a near-death experience, and something not to be taken lightly. I'm just lucky (or you're lucky) i didn't say what i really wanted to say, or your ears would be burning. And so wouldd anyone else who read it.
Thank you, for those who picked up on the seeming insensitivity of the remark. I wasn't sure if i was taking it wrong, and making a mountain out of a molehill. Barton, woodsman'sgame, I owe both of you one. Please excuse my rudeness, i just got a little irritated with the abovementioned individual. I am now off to punish myself properly for losing my temper.

[allalone46]

That wasn't a Dom that did that to you. I read you thed, and found what that person, and his friend did to you discusting, and dispicable. A Dom, Domme Master, or Mistress puts the safty of there sub or slave above everything else. These two people (for lack of a better turm, and I don't want to get into trouble here) were not anything of the kind. Just a cuple of a** h**** betting up a woman and calling it BDSM and that he is in the lifestyle.

[Pandora's Box]

Agreed allalone. The fellow that did that to her was a bully asshole in dom's clothing.

As for Whipit/Player/WhateverTheFuckHisNameIsThisTime - he's an ass.

Jaeangel, you need not apologize for anything. Player does not deserve any apology from you. His sole purpose is to stir up shit. I haven't seen his many reincarnations, but from what I've seen and heard he has no issues with making people feel badly about themselves.

He is not worth the effort it would take to wipe him off the bottom of your shoe like a piece of old gum.

*hugs* Jaeangel

[allalone46]

Agreed allalone. The fellow that did that to her was a bully asshole in dom's clothing.
Jaeangel

I almost agree with you. He isn't in Doms clothing, he isn't a wantabe, he is just some one, and his friends that like to beat up woman and call it BDSM, and play. And he calls himself a Dom so he can find and justify what he does. In short he is what some in the vanila world say we are, to justify what the law does to come after use, when thay do, and making the laws that thay do.

[Pandora's Box]

Yes. Agreed.

I was just using a turn of phrase, a play on words. (i.e. wolf in sheep's clothing)

But no, he isn't (nor his friends) a dominant. He (and his friends) are abusers.

[allalone46]

Yes. Agreed.

I was just using a turn of phrase, a play on words. (i.e. wolf in sheep's clothing)

But no, he isn't (nor his friends) a dominant. He (and his friends) are abusers.

I know . He is some one that brings out the worst in the best of us, and just gets under some of are skin. What he did. That wasn't bondage just

[allalone46]

I think I should just leave this tried before I get in to trouble for saying something I shouldn't say.

[Driveslikeagirl]

I believe in SSC and there is no point at which an animal can give any kind of informed consent to participating in sex acts.

That's exactly how I feel about it. I love animals, and right now have a dog that is my only child. RATIONALLY I know that animals are not people, but to me it would be like taking advantage of my kid if someone were to "take advantage of" my poor dog!

In fact, if I EVER caught someone molesting my poor dog, I'd make the person take my dog out to dinner, and call him the next morning, so my dog wouldn't feel used.

[subbiesarah]

OK, it seems a bit extreme for this to be my first post but here goes....

i have a gorgeous, neutered male dog. my Master has, on occasion, tied me or ordered me to kneel with legs spread and 'invited' my dog to lick me out which he (the dog) has done with relish. Does this consistute animal abuse? The dog adored doing it, my Master enjoyed watching and i, whilst squirming with embarrasment, loved the feeling of his tongue....

Is this considered wrong or abusive? i'd be interested to here your views.

[BDSM_Tourguide]

Is this considered wrong or abusive? i'd be interested to here your views.

It's not wrong or abusive. It just means you have a particular kink that some others don't.

[ValKyrie]

OK, it seems a bit extreme for this to be my first post but here goes....

i have a gorgeous, neutered male dog. my Master has, on occasion, tied me or ordered me to kneel with legs spread and 'invited' my dog to lick me out which he (the dog) has done with relish. Does this consistute animal abuse? The dog adored doing it, my Master enjoyed watching and i, whilst squirming with embarrasment, loved the feeling of his tongue....

Is this considered wrong or abusive? i'd be interested to here your views.

It depends on your point of view. Some say it is abusive and it is illegal in many states. Others say not. I have posted my views previously, but wanted to add something.

While I wouldn't judge anyone for their kink, their tastes, I personally wouldn't involve myself or my submissive in a scene involving any sort of sexual contact with animals.

However, my kinks are no better than yours!

[Jade28]

If you or your master were to hit the dog or punish it in any way or make the dog do something it didn't want to do then I consider it abuse. but since that does not seem to be the case there is no harm done. The dog is only acting on its natural primal instincts. and you should not question your master.

[TheDarkOne]

Bestiality, eh? Hmm, it has bene in some of the stories I've read, but it has never been a major kink of mine <_<. Anyway, might as well put my 2 cents here.

On the subject of a dog being consentual or not, I think that if a dog doesn't want it, then he/she will show it, as has already been said. My family had a dog before back when I was a kid, and althrough he was a nice dog, even he got tired of playing with us kids at times, so when he didn't want to rush around and play with us, he showed it by barking or growling at us, or even give a soft bite on the hand if we were persistent.

As for it being unatural for the dog - come on, for how long have we humans been raising dogs to suit our own purposes rather than the dog's own? . As has been mentioned, it is hardly within the dog's "nature" to be getting newspaper, balls or slippers for us . And how often are we not in some way using the dog's abilities in one way or another? They're fast and have good hunting insicts, so they can become hunting dogs or sheephounds. And their sharp sense of smell is what has gotten us to train them to find stuff like crack, escaped criminals and so on... So who who owns an animal (of a certain kind, since there's exceptations, cats are allowed to keep more of their true nature than some other animals, for example) can't say that he/she aren't twisting the true nature of the animal in some sense?

So overall IMHO bestiality is not that abusive to the animals, but it depends on the situation and how the animal is treated otherwise... Well, that's my 2 cents, that