Herman Cain Accusations

Do you believe the accusations about Repubican Candidate Herman Cain, and do you think it wil effect his run for the GOP Nomination or do you think it is all a step up and none of it realy happenend, some of his 'Victims" havesaid if they can get around the Confidentialy agreement made at the time a settlment was made, they would speak up, do you believe any of it?? Do you believe he did Sexualy Harras Female member od Nation Resturant Association or is it all just Mud Slinnig and nonoe o ti happend and they, the Ladies where put up to it to discredit him and cause him to MAYBE drop his White House Bid

When it comes to any Politician, I believe nothing they say, as for Herman Caine, he has been imitating little Georgie Bush, in that he is making conflicting statements and trying to cover up these conflicts. The Sexual Harassment charges have gained strength when it was found out that the complaintents were given a YEARS SALARY as severence pay, and made to sign a non-disclosure statement. Thats interesting. But even More Interesting is how Herman Caine is accusing Kurt Anderson, Ron Perry's campaign advisor of leaking the Harassement complaints. My personal call is that all this back stabbing and hypocracy in the Republican party is giving Obama the presidency as before. People I asked stated " I didn't so much vote for Obama as I voted against John McCain"

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Originally Posted by Stealth694

When it comes to any Politician, I believe nothing they say, as for Herman Caine, he has been imitating little Georgie Bush, in that he is making conflicting statements and trying to cover up these conflicts. The Sexual Harassment charges have gained strength when it was found out that the complaintents were given a YEARS SALARY as severence pay, and made to sign a non-disclosure statement. Thats interesting. But even More Interesting is how Herman Caine is accusing Kurt Anderson, Ron Perry's campaign advisor of leaking the Harassement complaints. My personal call is that all this back stabbing and hypocracy in the Republican party is giving Obama the presidency as before. People I asked stated " I didn't so much vote for Obama as I voted against John McCain"

One thing I jave heard for 2012 is that Obama won't win, the Repulicans will loose"
If Perry is behind this, and it finaly comes out he is, or his Campaign is that could be the end of Perry's Run
And I ffffirmly beleive, if that happens and Perry says "I had no idea my Campaign was behind it" It isstil his fault he HAS to know what is going on in his own Campaign, like like the Captain of the Titanic saying, "What Ice Berg" he may not have caused the ship to hot it, but as Ca[tain he had to know what is going on

I have a tendency to believe his accusers. Cain barely even has a campaign, so I don't think he has much chance.

Did accusations of sexual abuse and harassment stop Bill Clinton from running?

Clinton was accused of sexual misbehavior with Monica, his problem developed when he tried to cover it up.
The American people expect a politician to be an SOB, but when they try and insult our intelligence, thats when we get mad.
Plus the Monica incident happened in the second term.

Im talking specifically about the allegations that were made during his run for the Presidency. (which pertained mostly to women who had issues with him during his Governorship).

No but his accusation where made while hewas in office and while he ran if my memory is correct??

"A review of accounts by numerous women linked to Clinton reveals no less than seven allegations of sexual abuse -- and in several cases even rape.

Kathleen Willey's now-famous claim that Clinton groped her against her will the day she came to plead for a paying White House job was finessed by feminists who concocted the "he took no for an answer" defense. But that rationale crumbles in the face of new revelations buried in the documents released by Congress two weeks ago.

It turns out Willey's story is far more harrowing than the one she told "60 Minutes" last March -- at least according to Linda Tripp, to whom Willey confided just moments after her close encounter of the Clinton kind.

As NewsMax.com reported exclusively last week, Tripp said Willey told her that Clinton's sexual approach "came out of nowhere and was forceful, almost to the point of an attack. ... The president had his hands on her breasts and all over her body. The president put Willey's hand on his penis. ...

"Willey said that the president was so out of control that his face was purple, and the veins were showing on his neck and forehead. The meeting ended when someone entered the adjacent office." (FBI Statement of Linda Tripp; House Document 105-316; Part 3; Page 3998.)

That last line is key, since it reveals that Clinton's assault stopped only when discovery seemed likely -- and not because Willey said "no." What might have happened if the president hadn't been interrupted? Perhaps what Juanita Broaddrick says happened to her some 20 years ago.

At the time, Broaddrick was a Clinton campaign worker. And according to a friend who says she confided in him, Clinton, who was then the Arkansas state attorney general, visited Broaddrick^Òs room in Little Rock's Camelot Motel on the pretext of discussing business. Once there, he pounced.

That friend, Phillip Yoakum, reminded Broaddrick of her nightmare in a letter he wrote hoping to convince her to go public in 1992:

"I was particularly distraught when you told me of your brutal rape by Bill Clinton ... [how] he started trying to kiss you and ran his hands all over your body until he ripped your clothes off, and how he bit your lip until you gave into his forcing sex upon you." (ABCNews.com, March 28, 1998)

Yoakum's version of Broaddrick's story is corroborated by a nurse who treated her after the assault. Norma Rogers told NBC News last March that Juanita Broaddrick was "distraught, her lips were swollen at least double in size. ... She told me they had intercourse against her will."

Norma Rogers not only backs up Phillip Yoakum on the rape charge here, but her observation about Broaddrick's swollen lips seems to confirm Yoakum's report that Clinton bit Broaddrick's lip until she submitted to unwanted sex. That's a curious detail for two witnesses to simply make up.

Broaddrick herself first denied the rape story in an affidavit submitted to Paula Jones' lawyers, only to retract her denial when questioned under oath by independent counsel Ken Starr's investigators.

The House Judiciary Committee has thus far decided to keep all of Starr's material on Broaddrick under seal -- including a reported audiotape recorded by Jones' investigators where Broaddrick discusses the impact her traumatic encounter with Clinton had on her life.

Biting figures in yet another allegation of sexual assault by Bill Clinton, this one from a Little Rock lawyer who told Clinton biographer Roger Morris about an attack she suffered the same year Clinton allegedly raped Broaddrick. In his best-selling book "Partners in Power," Morris reports:

"A young woman lawyer in Little Rock claimed that she was accosted by Clinton while he was attorney general and that when she recoiled he forced himself on her, biting and bruising her. Deeply affected by the assault, the woman decided to keep it all quiet for the sake of her own hard-won career and that of her husband. When the husband later saw Clinton at the 1980 Democratic Convention, he delivered a warning. 'If you ever approach her,' he told the governor, 'I'll kill you.' Not even seeing fit to deny the incident, Bill Clinton sheepishly apologized and duly promised never to bother her again." (page 238)

This anonymous woman's story sounds similar enough to Juanita Broaddrick's that some believe they are one and the same. But Broaddrick wasn't a lawyer and she wasn't quite so young. At 35, she was actually three years older than Clinton at the time.

In a November 1997 interview about this explosive paragraph, author Morris told me that he had interviewed both the victim and her husband several times in late 1993 and early 1994. He refused to divulge their names but did say that the couple was more socially prominent than the Clintons were at the time of the attack, which was not true of Juanita Broaddrick and her husband.

Not every accusation of sexual abuse by Clinton is quite so frightening. Still, Christine Zercher's encounter with then-candidate Clinton was scary enough to her. In 1992, Zercher was a stewardess aboard Clinton's campaign plane, Longhorn One. By all accounts, a party atmosphere prevailed as Clinton continually flirted with the all-blond flight attendant cadre.

A recently broadcast ABC News video showed Clinton snuggled next to Zercher's co-worker, Debra Schiff, as the two exchanged affectionate touches. Of course, when Mrs. Clinton was aboard, all such shenanigans were put on hold.

But while flight attendant Schiff may have been receptive to Clinton's advances, Zercher recounted an episode to Star magazine last March that left her paralyzed with fear. For forty minutes late one airborne night, Zercher sat frozen after Clinton awoke, plunked himself down next to her, and casually began caressing her breasts as Mrs. Clinton slept all the while just feet away.

For a time, it seemed that Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Miss America in 1982, might have suffered a fate similar to Juanita Broaddrick's, the woman whose rape allegation against Bill Clinton we have detailed here.

Gracen friend Judy Stokes told Paula Jones' lawyers that Gracen had recounted her experience with then-Gov. Clinton in a way that suggested their one-time liaison may have been forced.

Stokes said her friend was in tears when she described Clinton's approach in the back seat of a limo and revealed that the sex they had was something Gracen "did not want to happen." On the run from a subpoena from Jones^Ò attorneys, Gracen's silence only fueled the speculation.

Then finally last April, Gracen came forward to the New York Daily News to acknowledge that she and Clinton did indeed have sex, something she denied when Clinton first ran for president. But, Gracen stressed, the sex was strictly consensual -- though the encounter was something she said she regretted almost immediately afterward.

That should have cleared the matter up. But then the Clinton White House did something very unusual. Clinton spinmeisters did nothing to challenge Gracen's acknowledgment of a consensual liaison, as if the fact that yet another woman claiming to have sex with the president was almost a relief, as long as the rape allegation was off the table.

Recall, this was the same Bill Clinton who had his operatives trash Gennifer Flowers mercilessly for going public the way Gracen just had. He himself would not confess to a consensual relationship with Flowers till he was put under oath.

And Gracen's more recent accounts only complicate the story. She told the Toronto Sun in September that she believed that White House investigators had kept her under surveillance and that even her family had been staked out. She said that at one point she even feared for her life and described the president as a very "dangerous and manipulative" man.

Then Gracen told the New York Post she felt compelled to hire her own private investigators to investigate the White House gumshoes who dogged her as she traveled from country to country.

Once her hotel room was broken into in what she believes was an attempt to gather evidence of her relationship with the president before it fell into the hands of Jones' attorneys.

Gracen's ordeal begs the question: If the White House was so worried that she would finger Clinton in a consensual relationship, taking the extraordinary measure of surveiling her every move -- then why the nonchalant reaction when Gracen finally did spill the beans?

Or did Casa Clinton have reason to worry that Gracen's account might have turned out to be more damaging than a story about a now-regretted one-night stand?

There's more. Even Paula Jones, whose lawsuit opened up Clinton's Pandora's boxer shorts, may have a legitimate complaint of assault.

Reporters have focused on her claim that Clinton exposed himself to her and merely asked for oral sex. But most Americans don't realize that Jones alleges she was subject to unwanted groping and momentary imprisonment as part of her ordeal.

In her amended complaint, Jones says that before Clinton coaxed her to "kiss it," he stroked her hair and complimented her on her "curves." She retreated to the couch, whereupon Clinton followed, says Jones, placed his hand on her thigh, and began sliding it toward her "pubic area."

After Clinton exposed himself, she made a break for the door. Clinton interrupted her escape and held the door briefly while he warned, "You're smart. Dave Harrington [Jones' boss] is a friend of mine. Let's keep this between ourselves."

In a detail reminiscent of what Kathleen Willey told Linda Tripp about Clinton's demeanor during her own assault, Jones said Clinton's face turned "beet red" as he became fully aroused.

And finally there's Monica Lewinsky herself. No one disputes the fact that she consented to -- and even instigated -- a sexual relationship with Bill Clinton. But just as relations with a wife or even a prostitute can become rape the moment the sex turns nonconsensual, there may have been instances when Clinton's behavior went beyond anything Lewinsky had in mind.

Last week, the New York Post reported that Linda Tripp, sourcing Monica herself, told the grand jury that Clinton sometimes enjoyed "rough sex" with Lewinsky.

"I don't mean abusive," said Tripp, "I mean very over the top, out of control, physically powerful, where he would repeatedly say to Monica, 'I'm not hurting you, am I?' And essentially he was, but she didn't say he was."

A fiftyish boss engaging in sadomasochistic sex with a 22-year-old underling? And six other women who may have been abused or even raped? Could all these people with no known connection to one another simply be making these accusations up? "