gorean information needed

[Whiskeyblue]

Ok I just wanted to put my two cents in here because I am indeed a Gorean. Many Goreans actually end up being shunned by the BDSM community because of misunderstandings on both sides so maybe I can clear things up. It looks like everyone here is seeing Gor as a BDSM offshoot. This is simply not what it is. Any Gorean will tell you Gor is a philosophy, that was written by a philosopher. The simplest way to explain the Gorean belief is this, one should be true to their nature. That is all Gor means really. Men are the dominant sex and women are the submissive sex by nature according to Gor. That's all it is really. All the intricate rules and such are just borrowed from the books because they are symbols to Goreans (and because some of us like the kink involved in them ). We explain our philosophy the same way Norman did, by using the Gorean culture. We try to bring ourselves close to what we see as the epitome of human nature. I personally am somewhat lax about having my kajira follow every rule to the T because it really isn't important as long as she knows her place. She knows that her goal is total submission and really that's what makes her kajira. The kajira is the essence of submission. The main point is that some people go around calling themselves Gorean and making a big thing about it because they are just jerks. The philosophy is to be understood not paraded, any Gorean knows this. So if you intend to learn Gor I suggest reading the information in Sardaria http://www.geocities.com/gorean_community/index.html and if you feel that you can agree with all that is written you just might be a Gorean. Also it is commonly forgotten that not every Gorean woman is kajira! There is such a thing as a free woman.

edit* Wow I just went over the previous posts here and I am seeing some pretty crazy stuff lol. Please don't believe everything you hear about Gor. Please! It really isn't as extreme as some make it out to be. At least it isn't when it is taken correctly. I don't want to start calling out specifics but for instance Gor does not really require kajira to be animals. It requires them to be pleasing that's all. kajira may speak but hardcore Goreans will have them avoid using personal pronouns. Next Gor by philosophy doesn't really tolerate male slavery at all however it is found in the books. Male slaves are not rare on Gor in fact they make up most of the work force. They are only looked down upon because of their submissive position which goes against the whole philosophy/culture of Gor. I will edit in more if I find anything I want to comment on.

edit** I think it is also worth saying that Gor was conceived right around the time when feminism was at its strongest and Gor is somewhat of an anti feminism. This is why there is so much emphasis on nature and gender differences in Gor.

edit*** Gor is basically one big romance so anyone who tells you there is no love in Gor... Has not read Gor. The whole idea of Gor is that love only takes place when the feminine side of the feminine sex is recognized and the masculine side of the masculine sex is recognized. Practically every Gor book contains some sort of love story to show this and of course to make an interesting book out of. One must always remember that Norman probably intended to make interesting stories first and philosophy books second (if even that. Some say he might have put the philosophy part in by accident as a side affect of him having been a teacher for so long.) and a lot of the extremes in Gor are just because it is interesting to read about. He didn't want to make a whole book about someone baking cookies because no one would read it. I have said many times Gor is about 95% fantasy and 5% philosophy. It is just a matter of reading between the lines.