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Some people are even trained to cum on command from a cold start. Winks
This thread has really gotten confusing. I'm quoting my own quote. But, that's one of the things that does it for me: if my partner can get into my head just right, I'm a goner with thoughts alone. I can orgasm fast and hard with absolutely no physical stimulation. No toys, no vibes, no hands. Some men seem to be able to say just the right thing, most don't. Now, that's just proof, of a type, that your brain is your biggest sex organ. And my brain doesn't need a lot of conversation, either. A sentence or two, said the right way, and I'm approaching melt-down. I'll cook-off like live ammo from just the thought or threat of certain fetishes/activities.
Now, it does bother me (just a little bit--lol) that I've run off and left my partner. But when I try to focus entirely on their pleasure and get them to "lift-off" first, my mind gets so imaginative while I'm talking or writing to them that I effectively mind-fuck myself. So I'm back to the same old problem. So: Yes, people really can get super excited by just the thought of certain fetishes/activities. And No, direct genital stimulation is not strictly needed for orgasm. Nor is any other physical stimulation.
I'll close in allowing that this situation is probably not the norm and I couldn't go out and just duplicate it with anyone. You can have really good cyber sex and it still not reach this level of intensity and eroticism. I think you just haven't found what (or who) "yanks your chain" yet. Keep looking.
Dixie:o :o
I cant speak for everyone , but I can tell you this.Being smacked, spanked, Him calling me names are all orgasm producing components for me. I love physical stimulation as well, but being mind f**ed is just as good. If these types of things dont produce an orgasm for you I dont think its because you dont belong in the lifestyle, its just different "strokes" for different folks!!
Maybe not the fetish of dressing up but there must be something about the whole situation that turns you on hun.. Maybe it is the control or being told what to do and trying to please that person .. Do you get wet from that???
This is a few good questions hun .. and i feel yes some people can get off from the fear.. the humiliation as well as other things that they may be into...just as some have said in here..
I also know the smell or taste of leather drives me insane.. the feel near brings me to orgasim when threatened with it.. not only because it is leather .. but because of the fear of what pain i may go through from it .. It turns me into a total ball of melt down .. Tighing up has the same effect especially when i am tied so tight there is no way out...
Then there is the subject of pain.. that i can cum from without any sexual stimulation at all...
I wrote a post a while back that i am going to quote as well give you a link .. In the link you will find the post and replies to what i said if you are interested.
But what it boils down to is what we call Sub Space.. and well Endorphin Rushes...
I hope it answers your questions as well gives you a reason why people such as myself get off without stimulation at all..
But before i do i want to add.. this is not an act nor a game for me .. This is my lifestyle that i chose to live and have now for over 25yrs..
Here is the link and the quote...
http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=13986
Some of this is going a bit off topic.. but i truly feel that to understand you need to not just hear someone say yes i do ..you need to understand the why i do..Quote:
HI gloomy bunny.. it is a good question.. and i often wondered it myself a long time ago..
It is hard to push your tolerance level but i find it as a want or need now...
Some ways that may help is to find the spot in your head that you can lose yourself .. a place that most are afraid to go.. to totally relax and not tense up.. to let your body float with the pain.. and not fight it.. to let it build inside you.. thinking of how you want to please your Sir.. putting your mind into a thought away from the pain or sometimes even music will help...
But i also feel it has to be the Doms responsibility to get you there in the right way as well..
Working you up slowly softly with a proper length warm up helps as well.. If he goes to fast and your mind and body can't keep up you will feel the pain and not enjoy it but resist from it... It has to be paced properly.. and that is your Dom's responsibility to figure out your pace and how fast you can go to accept it...
I find communication for this is very helpful.. Using the terms green yellow red and a safe word helps the Dom to know where you are at..
green-being go a bit harder
yellow-meaning ok stay here let me catch up
red-being move somewhere else or slow right down as it got ahead of you..
and of course always have a safe word for Stop
If you can get past the pain.. there is a place you will find.. It is called sub space.. Once you have made it there you will find it is somewhere you never want to leave..
It is the place where the natural chemical to fight off the pain lies.. They are called endorphins..
-WHAT ARE ENDORPHINS? ("en-DOR-fins")
"Endorphin" is Greek for "the morphine within", describing pain-relief chemicals produced naturally in the body. The central nervous system is equipped with specific receptor sites for morphine-like substances that attach to receptors to help relay "stop-pain" messages.
To put it bluntly.. it is a total body high.. without using drugs or alcohol.. It is a high created by your own chemicals.. and a place you will want to go back to time and time again if you can find it properly...
I know i went almost 5 yrs without it .. and to go without is like an addiction.. it is very hard to forget and not want...
I have left some other places to find out about subspace below..
But i also want you to take note of what happens 36 hours to 4-5 days after a sub hits subspace.. that most don't know about ...
It is called The sub drop...
I will take a part that explains this from this link {remember to read this whole link if you are interested}
sub drop: "Always, always keep in mind that with the raising of endorphins comes the falling of endorphins. By that I mean sub drop. Sub drop is the term used for, when the endorphin levels drop down past normal. The Dominant must be there for this. It often happens between 36hrs, and up to, 4 or 5 days after the scene. (depending on the submissive).Code:http://en.allexperts.com/q/BDSM-2733/Scening.htm
In sub drop the submissive feels insecure, wishy washy. Her emotions are all over the place. She might feel cold, then hot, then cold again. Her body might tremble and shake. All of which depend on how deep into subspace the submissive went. The deeper the subspace, the harder the sub drop.
Chocolate helps with sub drop, it raises the endorphin levels. Make sure there's water on hand, as well as a blanket. Blanket around a submissive's shoulders held tight along with the arms of her Dominant, can make her feel secure again. A warm shower to help with the chills often helps as well."
Here are also some other references to endorphins and breaking in a sub to pain:
This one is a bdsm dictionary as well .. Very smart to keep handyCode:http://en.allexperts.com/q/BDSM-2733/Breaking-sub-extreme-play.htm
i hope at least some of this has helped hun... i know it can be frustrating .. and yes the others are right .. sometimes people just are not into it...Code:http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/dictionary/Endorphin/
Just my opinion
hugs
snow
Just my opinion
hugs
snow
forced orgasm.
it's very possible. easier when someone else is doing the "direct stimulation."
but there have been times when i'm just not in the mood and he requires an O. no time to work up a hot fantasy. using a vibe or just a lot A LOT of pressure on clit gets me there. the O usually feels way different - way more concentrated just on my clit rather than that whole yummy all over tingly feeling but heck, it's just as good - if not better because it was just a pure O... no bells & whistles.
It really differs from sub to sub.
I've experienced subs who got orgasms being spanked or whipped and others who could come several times during long bondage sessions.
For it was the making love afterwards. So there really arent any "rules" for it. :rose: :rose:
Snowflake
No I can't say BDSM turns me on. I get excited. I get the feelings you get right before you go on a roller coaster. That anxious feeling while I fantasize about rape and such. But no, I am not turned on by any of it. I don't get wet and I've never orgasmed from thoughts of bdsm. BDSM is fun. Not a turn on.
So now I'm worried. Maybe I am just one of those people who likes kinky things in the bedroom and nothing more. Perhaps I'm not hardcore enough to be part of this community. Say it aint so. I hope that's not the case. But, then again, it's too early to decide. I hardly have any experience.
Edit: And no I'm not MIssconfused. I'm sure lots of women fantasize while masturbating. I'm just one who HAS to fantasize in order to orgasm.
what's wrong with liking BDSM in the bedroom only? it's a great place to enjoy it. :)
it sounds like you're being a little hard on yourself. discovery is the most fun part of D/s - what you like, what you don't... just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Hun if you are just learning.. what is to say that maybe that bit of excitement will not flourish as you do in the BDSM world?
The expectation and the anticipation can and will grow if allowed leading to more feelings towards the whole situation..
Just as a flower grows you are still a bud on a tiny stem that has not yet seen or shown your full potential.. enjoy what you have and allow yourself to grow before making any harsh judgement of whether you belong or not... you might find you bloom into a beautiful flower...
We all started off just as you... either as kids and fantasies... or as young adults still exploring for the first times...Not Belong..?? i dare say this is the best place to be .. to learn more and try and find yourself if this is something that even gives you the slightest little twinge of excitement... as you will find some of us maybe a bit more experienced then you ..but are more then willing to share that with you to help you grow and learn other ways you may enjoy it .. There is so much to this life.. it is not all about taking a punishment enjoying spanking or even rough play.. it can be sensual as well hun...
Many enjoy being tied down, teased and tantalized .. others like to be told what to do .. others enjoy pleasing their Master.. and the list goes on ..
So if you find interests at all even if it is bedroom enjoyment ...then i can honestly say this is the place to be... Even if it is just to find new ways to make it more interesting in the bedroom.. and hun i wasn't a 24-7 sub through the whole 25 yrs i have been a sub ... it started off slow just like you and grew... So don't be hard on yourself ..take your time... ask questions and learn from it ..but most of all enjoy what you do no matter what part you do...
Just my opinion again hun
hugs snow
I am hoping this statement is a joke. But if not I am sorry hun. Scientifically and Bioligically you can while thinking about anything. there are physical triggers every woman has also. You just have to find them.
:cool:Variety, multiplicity are the two most powerful vehicles of lust.
:bondage:Marquis de Sade:bondage:
In regards to the "masturbating while thinking of other things" I would think you would have to be thinking of something sexual to masturbate to orgasm, at least in my experience anyway. Mine is thinking about my mates...I guess that makes me a voyer, huh?
I can't imagine, personally, being able to orgasm in an instant like that. I don't know if it's because I haven't been doing this long enough, or because it's not something that has been...taught, I guess, or trained. I just find it hard to think of myself going from 0 to orgasm like that. Is it easier for certain types of people to do that?
Both! Some parts are just fun. What's not fun about dressing up sexy for your Dom? What's not fun about being teased until you blush? And what's not fun about being with a group of kinky people and actually being able to talk about sex and what we do?
As for super-excited...it just depends on the person. Pony-play is super-exciting for some and leaves others cold. I have a friend who is very submissive but any pain is a hard limit. However, service turns her on mightily.
Like another poster said: "Diferent strokes for different folks." Sometimes literally. :D
In answer to your first question... Hell. Fucking. Yes. But I'm sure you are already getting that from the previous responses to your post. I just wanted to add some more on the other question you asked...
Hell yes. I didn't think so for years and years! I was convinced that even during sex and when I was involved in any other sexual activity (like oral, etc), I would have to fantasize in order to cum. And I did do so, for a long time (My fantasies often involved the same person and similar situation but much much darker, more devious circumstances...). About a year ago I met the most wonderful man, and I never have to fantasize when I'm with Him. I'm just *there*, with Him, I can't possibly fantasize, so much to do... feeling, touching, moaning, stroking, grabbing, experiencing, listening, craving, begging, pleasing... submitting... loving Him and feeling that all encompassing thrill when He is grabbing and pulling and groaning and pushing... hard... the thrill of His pleasure stronger than mine, urging mine... cumming :D
So yay! No more being half checked-out during sex. When I'm fucking Him, I am 100% there and nowhere else. I think it may also have something to do with my feelings for Him. Oh, and of course, his super-fantastico, beyond-amazing bedroom abilities...
Now I can cum while masturbating without fantasizing easily, if I watch porn. I don't have to think about it, I just look, wank, and cum. But, it sucks and is absolutely no fun - more for when I am feeling lazy (and oddly, usually drunk. lol).
Yes... There's nothing so sweet as hearing the words "Can you really do that?"
change to "How can you do that to me?"
Hate to say that isnt always true...i seldom masturbate for strictly that reason..I think too much and very easily distract myself...heck it happens even during pain play and i love that ....i'd love to find the dom who could make me lose myself in sensations and not think...lol...